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Behold, I've made an American!
Finland:
Ruined a perfectly good Nordic is what you've done. Look at it, it's got Ambitions.
1 month ago · tagged #shitposting #bitching about the country of birth #future precariat billionaire · 9 notes · .permalink
ilzolende:
suuuuure
@socialjusticemunchkin
Yeah, they spelled it totally wrong. Any of the following would’ve been appropriate:
“Suomalainen keisarikunta”
“Suomen keisarikunta”
“Keisarillinen suomi”
“Muinaissuomalainen imperiumi”
“Esisuomalainen valtakunta”
“Antiikkisen Suomen keisarillinen valtakunta”
with “Muinaissuomalainen imperiumi” being the strongest candidate
but no, they didn’t bother to check what we actually call the Glorious History
(also, there are a couple of factual nitpicks about borders and dates but those are far less important than ~linguistics~)
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1 month ago · tagged #finland is swastika country #shitposting · 76 notes · source: shkreli-for-president · .permalink
Open Borders
argumate:
(@voximperatoris, @neoliberalism-nightly, @socialjusticemunchkin)
Most people agree that open borders is a desirable end state for humanity, as being able to maintain it is strong evidence of an absence of war and famine and reduced global inequality.
Most people also agree that throwing open the borders overnight would have catastrophic consequences, following which the borders would immediately be closed again.
(The best example of open borders we have in the world today is the EU, and even moderate refugee flows have been sufficient to destabilise this project).
However there are plenty of obvious compromises that could be made, such as increasing immigration quotas by 50% each year, greatly increasing migration while giving plenty of time for societies to adjust and absorb the flow. Or going for easy wins, like opening the border between the US and Canada.
That said, I still can’t help feeling that proponents of open borders are downplaying the changes involved, and the possible consequences.
I mean, @voximperatoris is referencing the Jim Crow south in what appears to be a positive example of a society with a racial underclass employed as servants with lynchings “on a very small scale in the grand scheme of things”. Like, I’m not trying to be snarky but that sounds like something someone might write if they were attempting to satirise the open borders position.
And @socialjusticemunchkin talking approvingly of the improved aesthetics of local inequality compared with global inequality; again, not everyone is going to share that particular aesthetic.
There are also questions of whether increased inequality within a particular society ends up causing more problems (for that society) than increased inequality globally; eg. North Sentinelese appear happier living their current lives than as servants in Silicon Valley, despite the latter being “less unequal”.
Many proponents of open borders have suggested introducing a dual track concept of citizenship, where immigrants would not gain access to the full range of social services available to current citizens. I think this also needs to be taken into account when considering what open borders would do to inequality.
So, to take a slightly different position: if seeking to move towards the abolition (as much as possible) of borders as soon as possible (leaving the obviously superior option of the Archipelago untouched as an even less realistic option: I have a marvellous plan for such an utopia this margin is too narrow to contain) is not desirable, why stop at national borders?
After all, the national borders are highly suspiciously sized. If a peaceful person with no ill intent may not migrate from Morocco to Spain, why should one be allowed to migrate from West Virginia to San Francisco?
The United States is larger than most combinations of two to numerous neighboring countries, and the differences inside the nation are staggering. The borderer regions in the Appalachia are practically third world compared to the city-state opulence of the Bay Area; and the values of the populations could hardly be more different. If poor people with backwards values being theoretically able to immigrate to the places where rich people with modern values live, shouldn’t we be more worried about the fact that any West Virginian who can purchase a plane ticket and find themselves housing and work is allowed to come to San Francisco and even vote in elections, with no border controls and centralized planning and immigration quotas to prevent the undesirable masses from flowing in without restraint? Surely Californian values and the riches and job markets of California are the fruits of the Californians’ labor, not something an Appalachian borderer may come to feast on whenever they feel like?
But furthermore, even within California we see stark differences! One does not need to venture too far inland to find different cultures and economies. Even if we build a wall around California, the problem persists; the Six Californias plan would have created both the richest and the poorest state of the Union, right next to each other! And indeed we are seeing the phenomenon of Central Californians flocking in to the Bay Area in search of work, the inevitable shantytowns kept away only by regulations that make it illegal for outsiders to ever have affordable housing. Surely it would be better to constrain this perversion and inequality machine, and establish a national border between the regions so that Silicon Valley may use 0.7% of is GDP in foreign aid to its impoverished neighbor and the shantytowns stay in Central California where they belong!
Yet even this is not enough! The neighborhood of Bayview-Hunters Point is notorious for being a honest-to-azathoth shantytown, with a racial distinction as sharp as it can ever be, right next to San Francisco itself. And indeed the denizens ever seek opportunities in the city proper, bringing their shantytownness and cheap labor downtown, driving down the wages of the hard-working residents of SoMa who, without this artificial mobility benefiting only the tech elite, could otherwise be making $50k a year even from burger-flipping! Not to mention all the services that fall under the general category of “servants to software developers” which would not be worth the genuine fair living wage of $30 an hour; the existence of this underpaid underclass allows the software developers to avoid doing their own shopping and driving and cooking and such things and instead use their time for the thing that is their comparative advantage, further driving up inequality when the equalizing effect of inefficient non-division of labor is reduced!
Indeed I say; let us restore all the borders! Back before this “enlightenment” and “emancipation” and such things, people knew their place and they would die on the same plot of land they were born onto. Let each family be bound to their own turf, never even imposing on their neighbor! Let us be truly honest in what we seek and end this charade; bring back serfdom! For only with the complete immobility of the populace, can a truly stable and equal and peaceful society be established. In our village, everyone is equal, looks the same and shares the same customs; and while we know that not every village is as prosperous as ours, we dutifully kind of pay our 0.7% of indulgences I mean aid to the Catholic Church which surely distributes it fairly to the poorest of the world instead of building a golden toilet for the pope; we have not verified this for only the Baron may ever leave this territory, but surely the virtous Church has the interests of all of us in mind!
1 month ago · tagged #shitposting #but also kind of an argument #it's highly suspicious that national borders would be the Correct level of immobility #yet i've never seen people explicitly advocate bringing the 'shooting at people who try to move' thing _inside_ their contries #racism cw · 73 notes · source: argumate · .permalink
Dark Marx show me the forbidden materialism!
1 month ago · tagged #shitposting #vagueblogging · 12 notes · .permalink
thetransintransgenic:
ilzolende:
thathopeyetlives:
rendakuenthusiast:
the-church-of-no-recess:
reality tv show where teenage anti-communists are forced to work in food service for a month
Whenever people talk about some facet of non-communist life, my first instinct is to wonder what the equivalent would be in the soviet union. In this case, I wonder what food service jobs in the soviet union were like.
it seems that the Soviet Union was automating some of them before automation of that sort of thing was cool.
As a teenage anti-communist, forced labor is coercive and wrong and if I have my way your TV show is going to have a counterrevolution and subsequently a lawsuit on its hands.
You go Ilzo! Unite those anti-communist teenagers who are being forced to do work they feel alienated from solely for the benefit of the singular employer, into a revolution against that employer! Yeah!
This is a brilliant distillation of the inherent paradox of statist communism. Any coercive system necessitates its own downfall, no matter how much it may have been a reaction to the previous coercive system, and thus the only true solution is to abolish coercion instead of simply painting it red and pretending it goes faster now.
…now would you have a moment to hear about our not!lord and not!savior anarchism?
(via thetransintransgenic)
1 month ago · tagged #shitposting #no gods no masters #no lords no saviors · 636 notes · source: the-red-church · .permalink
queerqueerspawn asked: Why would you sometimes prefer to call that group "extropians"? I'm just asking because I'm unfamiliar with that...
oligopsony:
leviathan-supersystem:
cause it’s the earliest group that was a recognizable version of the clique, it was this transhumanist discussion group in the 90′s [link] which was where yudkowsky and robin hanson met, before they would go on to start the blog “overcoming bias,” and then yudkowsky started lesswrong as a spinoff of overcoming bias, and the rest is history. also the extropians were overtly libertarian/objectivist, so bringing up that the lesswrongers/”rationalists” have their roots in the extropian movement supports my argument that the politics of the lesswrong ideology is ultimately right-libertarian in nature.
but ideological “natures” just aren’t phyletic in this sense - otherwise right-libertarianism itself (for instance) could never have come to be
Ultimately we are all @-listers though, united in our opposition to the PC regadless of what differences there might be amongst us, if not better for it as we totally can show that the outer edges of the solar system have room enough for everyone by the brilliant method of “not hanging out on the same celestial object as the people you disagree with too much”. Autonomist Alliance solidarity forever!
1 month ago · tagged #shitposting #i'm talking about #eclipse phase #in case you couldn't tell #i guess i'd be extropian mutualist or something #at least if a genie told me i was going to be automagically transported to that universe #and could choose which people to hang out with #from behind a rawlsian veil of ignorance #and wasn't allowed to think too long about it #then those are probably the ones i'd go with #emigrating from titan because the oligarhyi need to get off my lawn #like move to the pc if you love it so much #i'd totally be a grumpy gerontarch #i was around in the 1000's and the original oligarhyi were really bad people #you kids don't know what you are larping #this is why we needed to get off the planet don't bring that bullshit here #fuck this and your democracy i'm moving to extropia at least they don't vote over there #except with their rep and wallets #which means that i can just disassociate with them if i disagree with the vote #good luck trying to do that on titan #but honestly tho i'd totally take titan over any actually existing country #it would be like would the transhuman utopia give everyone #free 3d-printers and free markets #or just free 3d-printers and somewhat free markets #i'm not going to be picky if i can have either one #i'm so not picky i'm willing to accept several variations on techno-utopianism #that is the non-pickiest thing ever · 9 notes · source: leviathan-supersystem · .permalink
ozymandias271:
maxiesatanofficial:
maxiesatanofficial:
Wait a goddamn second political alignment charts are literally the same exact thing as D&D alignment grids. What the shit
- Lawful Good: True State Socialism
- Lawful Neutral: Left-leaning liberals
- Lawful Evil: “moderate” liberals, neocons
- Neutral Good: [Impossible due to the nature of politics?]
- True Neutral: South Park libertarians, Legal Weed Capitalists
- Neutral Evil: people obsessed with “states’ rights”
- Chaotic Good: Anarcho-communists, the Yippies
- Chaotic Neutral: Vermin Supreme
- Chaotic Evil: militia groups and anarcho-capitalists
tag yourself I’m true neutral
I’m seeing that Neutral Good is unoccupied territory and seizing it to be the refuge of all “I don’t really know the specifics but we should have post-scarcity and freedom and niceness and 3d-printers for all and nobody voting on anyone’s body” people
1 month ago · tagged #shitposting · 144 notes · source: maxiesatanofficial · .permalink
argumate:
SpaceX is Elon Musk’s excuse to play Kerbal Space Program with real rockets.
If I had Musk moneys, I’d totally use some of them for KSP LARP too; wouldn’t pretty much anyone non-boring?
1 month ago · tagged #shitposting · 14 notes · source: argumate · .permalink
sheridan-holmes:
goodbyemisery:
goodbyemisery:
I can’t believe I never realized “come on and slam and welcome to the jam” is in iambic pentameter
also please remember that the flip side to this is that you can recite any other line of iambic pentameter as if it were the lyrics to the space jam theme
HOLD UP because basically what this means is you can read Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales to the space jam tune what a time to be a l i v e
(via oligopsony-deactivated20160508)
1 month ago · tagged #shitposting · 36,354 notes · source: goodbyemisery · .permalink