brave and steely-eyed and morally pure and a bit terrifying… /testimonials /evil /leet .ask? .ask_long?
@conductivemithril:
The person who gets 12 is the Chosen One.
Rebageling this to place credit where credit is due.
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1 month ago · tagged #shitposting #just one word: plastics · 181 notes · source: socialjusticemunchkin · .permalink
I tried to not break legacy results compatibility so most people’s scores should be the same and this would just clarify the questionnaire; if people’s results change, it’s because I’ve changed some things to better reflect the original intent based on data acquired so far (looking especially at you, @sigmaleph, because that “politics” answer was the most stereotypical rationalist thing ever and I’m embarrassed to have overlooked that possibility)
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I seem to have a Thing of throwing off-hand jokes that later are validated surprisingly well by empirical data, and this time it’s “as queer as a women’s college”
Because I’m screwing around in the diaspora survey results for fun and wow this fits all the unlikely but totally true stereotypes
like, right now I’m googling the statistics on lesbianity and transgenderism in Mount Holyoke because holy shit our hardest core might actually give them a run for their money in queerness
So, the results are in, and…
yes.
I used this data and the four big clusters with useful results (0, 1, 3 and 6) turned out pretty remarkable.
Cluster 0 seems relatively unremarkable; its most distinctive characteristic was skipping the cultural questions and all in all less active answering
6 is roughly identical to 0 in other questions; it has some slight exposure to the culture but seems to be mostly made of “regular people” who somehow ended up on the survey, and by “regular” I mean “still pretty niche but not thoroughly corrupted”; almost half had read Ender’s Game and a third are regulars of SSC and that’s about it. I’m calling the two of them the “ordinarys”
Cluster 3 I’m naming “rationalist-adjacent” because they share a lot of characteristics but aren’t neck deep in the memeplex unlike…
Cluster 1 which is obviously “yudkowskians” because they are basically walking stereotypes
And by stereotypes I mean things like:
Half the women are trans (8% to 9% and most of the enbies (9% in total) are amab as well); r-adjacents have relatively low numbers of trans women but the same amount of enbies, and a quarter is afab instead of 12% of the yudkowskians. But both have more women than the ordinarys, and yudkowskians’ trans team is very strong and makes a valiant effort in closing the gender gap even if the r-adjacents seize a narrow victory in the numbers game.
More people are poly than mono, and heterosexuals are only barely a majority (59% while 29% are bi; the rationalist-adjacents are very close too with 62% and 23% while the ordinarys have 76-78% and 12-14%; homosexuality is relatively constant at 3-5%)
9% of both the yudkowskians and r-adjacents are asexual, compared to 5% of the ordinarys
Half of them work with computers and nobody is going to believe those alleged IQ scores never ever (146, compared to a consistent 136-138 for the rest); they are also the most likely to have only a high school degree while the other groups (especially r-adjacents) beat them in the other education categories
Agnosticism is hilariously unpopular (3% compared to 11-16% for the rest) and they are extremely jewish
Basically everyone reads SSC, and they are the biggest readers of everything else on the list as well (except Xenosystems, where the r-adjacents take the first place in regulars and sometimes-readers)
The closer one is to the hard core of the memeplex, the less conservative (by a significant amount) and the more libertarian (to some degree but not as massively) one is, but neither of them can hold a candle to the massive correlation between exposure to Yudkowsky’s writings and being a trans woman (can’t bother to do the calculations but the connection is absurdly strong)
So this data basically says that the archetypical rationalist is:
- 21-25 years old
- jewish
- trans woman (probably kind of non-binary-ish on some level, but transitioning with hormones)
- polyamorous
- gray-asexual
- bisexual
- an absurdly gifted child with the specific kind of badbrains which is varyingly diagnosed as autism, ADHD, anxiety, depression, or most likely some combination of them
- studies computer science
- politically left-libertarian
- geeks out on all kinds of weird nerd stuff
- has read all of: Three Worlds Collide, HPMoR, The Fable of the Dragon-Tyrant
- a regular SSC reader
to calculate your “how stereotypical rationalist am I” score: 1 point for fully matching each, ½ points for getting close; mine is 10/12
eight
what kind of failure rationalist am I
about 4.5 to 5
i’d probably go into r-adjacent9 points; +1 if you count quarter-Jewish via my dad’s side of the family. +1 if “anyone who isn’t cis-male” qualifies as bisexual (I mean, technically it does, but it feels like it’s failing the spirit of “bisexual” :))
I cannot technicality my way into being 25 again. In fairness, when I was 25, LessWrong did not exist yet (and it is so weird routinely having a decade on everyone else in this community…)
I’d say that’s ½ points for jewishness, and ½ to 1 points for sexuality (I think heterosexuality is 0 points, other sexual minorities are ½ points; I gave myself ½ for “empirically quite consistently transfemininesexual” and yours sounds at least closer to “bisexual” than me)
1 month ago · tagged #just one word: plastics · 148 notes · source: socialjusticemunchkin · .permalink
Shit dude what the hell I legit chose the name Aiden and wanna dress up all the time now I’m rethinking my life and name and shit
I mean there is nothing wrong with the name Aiden (or Brayden, Hayden, Kaiden, or any of its other variants). I mean if someone calls out “Aiden!” at philly trans health conference half the room will turn around but the same thing is true of rationalists and ‘Michael’, so…
I just… IS THERE SOME SOCIOLOGICAL REASON WHY ALL TRANSMASCS WISH TO BE NAMED ‘AIDEN’
DO MEN REALLY LIKE THE NAME ‘AIDEN’ AND MOST OF THEM DON’T GET TO PICK THEIR OWN NAMES AND HAVE TO SUFFER THROUGH LIFE BEING NAMED ‘MICHAEL’
SHOULD I NAME ANY SONS I HAVE ‘AIDEN’
Then there’s the way all trans women are either ‘Zoe’ or some kind of /Al+[eiy].+/
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I seem to have a Thing of throwing off-hand jokes that later are validated surprisingly well by empirical data, and this time it’s “as queer as a women’s college”
Because I’m screwing around in the diaspora survey results for fun and wow this fits all the unlikely but totally true stereotypes
like, right now I’m googling the statistics on lesbianity and transgenderism in Mount Holyoke because holy shit our hardest core might actually give them a run for their money in queerness
So, the results are in, and…
yes.
I used this data and the four big clusters with useful results (0, 1, 3 and 6) turned out pretty remarkable.
Cluster 0 seems relatively unremarkable; its most distinctive characteristic was skipping the cultural questions and all in all less active answering
6 is roughly identical to 0 in other questions; it has some slight exposure to the culture but seems to be mostly made of “regular people” who somehow ended up on the survey, and by “regular” I mean “still pretty niche but not thoroughly corrupted”; almost half had read Ender’s Game and a third are regulars of SSC and that’s about it. I’m calling the two of them the “ordinarys”
Cluster 3 I’m naming “rationalist-adjacent” because they share a lot of characteristics but aren’t neck deep in the memeplex unlike…
Cluster 1 which is obviously “yudkowskians” because they are basically walking stereotypes
And by stereotypes I mean things like:
Half the women are trans (8% to 9% and most of the enbies (9% in total) are amab as well); r-adjacents have relatively low numbers of trans women but the same amount of enbies, and a quarter is afab instead of 12% of the yudkowskians. But both have more women than the ordinarys, and yudkowskians’ trans team is very strong and makes a valiant effort in closing the gender gap even if the r-adjacents seize a narrow victory in the numbers game.
More people are poly than mono, and heterosexuals are only barely a majority (59% while 29% are bi; the rationalist-adjacents are very close too with 62% and 23% while the ordinarys have 76-78% and 12-14%; homosexuality is relatively constant at 3-5%)
9% of both the yudkowskians and r-adjacents are asexual, compared to 5% of the ordinarys
Half of them work with computers and nobody is going to believe those alleged IQ scores never ever (146, compared to a consistent 136-138 for the rest); they are also the most likely to have only a high school degree while the other groups (especially r-adjacents) beat them in the other education categories
Agnosticism is hilariously unpopular (3% compared to 11-16% for the rest) and they are extremely jewish
Basically everyone reads SSC, and they are the biggest readers of everything else on the list as well (except Xenosystems, where the r-adjacents take the first place in regulars and sometimes-readers)
The closer one is to the hard core of the memeplex, the less conservative (by a significant amount) and the more libertarian (to some degree but not as massively) one is, but neither of them can hold a candle to the massive correlation between exposure to Yudkowsky’s writings and being a trans woman (can’t bother to do the calculations but the connection is absurdly strong)
So this data basically says that the archetypical rationalist is:
to calculate your “how stereotypical rationalist am I” score: 1 point for fully matching each, ½ points for getting close; mine is 10/12
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I seem to have a Thing of throwing off-hand jokes that later are validated surprisingly well by empirical data, and this time it’s “as queer as a women’s college”
Because I’m screwing around in the diaspora survey results for fun and wow this fits all the unlikely but totally true stereotypes
like, right now I’m googling the statistics on lesbianity and transgenderism in Mount Holyoke because holy shit our hardest core might actually give them a run for their money in queerness
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i don’t think straight people will ever truly understand why many of us gay people LOVE being gay and why we would not change ourselves for the world. even the most progressive straight people, deep down, they pity us. they think we’d probably rather be straight if we could. “progressive” people always make the argument that “being gay isn’t a choice, because who would ever choose to be gay??” guess what: i didn’t choose to be gay, but i would. they’ll never understand that once we’re able to accept ourselves and find a safe community, being gay feels amazing. i love being a woman who loves women. and it’s only because of them that i’ve ever had to even think about questioning that.
*blinks* You mean the argument I dislike is disproportionately spread by straight people? That… does make as much sense as it being our own favored argument.
Queer people generally believe it’s okay to be queer and everyone else should be okay with it because… people just want equal treatment. We support it with verbal arguments, but it’s not our true reason, for all that some of us seem to believe it. But the straight people don’t accept it automatically and if they do they need an argument to convince people who don’t. This is complicated by people who think they’re straight being allies who know no one chooses to be gay, turning out to not be straight.
Also naturalistic fallacy or one of its relatives, sigh.
it gets even weirder when this moves down to trans people. being trans does not feel amazing. i hate it. but i would still choose being a trans woman over being a cis man.
perhaps this is connected to my wireheading aversion. i still don’t understand it. trans friends, please let me know whether you would take a pill that relieves all gender dysphoria from your asab permanently, or continue as you are.
I would definitely not take a pill making me a cis man.
No. No no nope not ever never. At least being trans would have to become way more uncomfortable for me to even consider taking the magical cis pill that would wipe away all of that. Cis man/cis woman I don’t care. Still way waaay nope all the way. The only thing I could imagine accepting is adding so many qualifiers on top of “cis woman” that I basically end up with “this exact kind of transfeminine enbie, except afab” which is totally cheating by any spirit of the rules.
My morph is modded and customized, I don’t want to switch it for a stock OEM model.
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Critics of LessWrong or the so-called Rationalist movement probably have various people in mind like Eliezer Yudkowsky, Robin Hanson, or Peter Thiel and the Silicon Valley venture capitalist community. But surveys suggest that the median member of the community is more likely to be a 20-something autistic trans girl suffering from depression and pursuing STEM studies. Any critiques that don’t take this into account may end up being misinterpreted.
the broader rationalist community is only like ~3% trans girls. Which admittedly is an order of magnitude more than the general population.
Tumblr rationalists, on the other hand…
(are still not majority trans girls. yet.)
This makes sense if interpreted as a “representative member” which allows one to overcount overrepresented demographics for illustrative purposes; the rationalist community is characterized by being disproportionately likely to be a 20-something autistic trans girl suffering from depression and pursuing STEM studies in comparison to the control population.
If the community has 3% trans girls and 7% “other”, of whom I believe one could justifiably round off approximately half into “trans girl adjacent”, we get a quite staggering 6% of “literally trans girls, basically trans girls, and trans girl adjacents” (which in my opinion is a somewhat more natural cluster in personspace than drawing a strict boundary between binary trans girls and trans-girl-adjacent enbies like me (I’m not sure which one I’d personally answer, but when people talk about the diaspora being full of trans girls they do mean to include people like me as well)).
So if the control population of similar but not-diaspora-rationalist people was, say, 80% cis guy, 17% cis girl, 2% trans girl, 1% trans guy (I’m rounding off enbies from this for simplicity purposes, no erasure intended); then the diaspora with its 79% cis guy, 13% cis girl, 6% trans girl, 2% trans guy (enbies once again rounded off to the nearest categories with stetson-harrison or discarded from the data; the numbers are eyeballed from survey results so they shouldn’t be horribly off but are not literally correct) is most significantly characterized by having a huge number of trans girls and thus the archetypical member is a trans girl even though the modal, median and average member is a cis guy.
Similarly, the archetypical member has all of ADHD, anxiety, depression and ASD to either clinical or sub-clinical-but-significant degree even though none of those are quite the majority (apart from depression which is very close). Thus the archetypical member is indeed a trans girl with a specific collection of badbrainsness which, I suspect, is actually basically a single underlying neurological feature modulated by our culture and mistakenly categorized as separate things by psychiatry which doesn’t understand biology and mechanisms of origin, and also probably implicated in why her brain is so good at filling out IQ tests that nobody believes the diaspora when we report it no matter how honestly and diligently we try to remove possible confounders.
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it true tho @sinesalvatorem once said that one should not be surprised that wanting to kiss girls correlates with other good decisions, and I say that transitioning would also be expected to correlate with other good decisions (at least it correlates with being a diaspora-type rationalist and with wanting to kiss girls, see the pattern?) and thus nobody should be surprised if trans lesbians, with our exceedingly high prior for making Objectively Good Decisions, would make the decision of dating all the friends or as close as possible or convenient everything fits as beautifully together as a theory ever could, and empirical observation that trans lesbians and trans-lesbian-adjacents tend to be awesome people further supports it!how to spot a trans lesbian: she’s poly and she’s dating all her friends
i feel so attacked right now
Same, really.
And you were almost right…
…Except I’m a godless extrovert with too many friends, and even I can’t date a hundred people.
wait does this mean once I become poly I have to transition
damn you trans-philic SJ and your brilliant marketing tactics
1 month ago · tagged #shitposting #it me #okay not exactly but the basic idea still holds #because why not date all your friends if you want to #in which promethea is a soulless robot #who simply doesn't have time to date all the possibly-dateworthy people #because the world won't take over itself #just one word: plastics · 567 notes · source: opiumhug · .permalink
(lesswrong.com)
Long-term basilisk anxiety doesn’t exist.
There are some other results too.
A lot fewer trans women than recent memes suggest. Also half of us are depressed.
Big parts of the pdf don’t have any data at all, and seem to have something to do with write-ins.
Also support for HBD is significantly higher than I would have predicted. Wow.
3.5% of AMABs are trans women, and an unspecified amount are enbie trans women (this is why our gender categorization system sucks); I think the statistics are compatible with 5-10% of AMABs being “basically women” and even the 20% is not outlandish if cis by default is as big as it seems to be (roughly doubling those numbers, so the 5-10% turns to 10-20%) and some people are still closeted to surveys.
Other observations:
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