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“ vox:
“ You can make a map of the United States just by plotting this year’s mass shootings.
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http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?page=5 here are all of the mass shooting in 2016 so far
I checked out the...

whatdoallthesewordsmean:

vox:

You can make a map of the United States just by plotting this year’s mass shootings.

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?page=5 here are all of the mass shooting in 2016 so far

I checked out the link, and I’m not going to try to say that those things did not happen since a somewhat random sampling of the source links would suggest that they did.

However, that same random sampling would also suggest that the vast majority of the incidents on this list appear to be either drug or gang related.

Lets talk about the definition of “mass shooting”

Cribbed from the excellent @therevenantrising , and this next section of text references 2015, but we’ll get to 2016 in a bit

The Anti-Gun Claim That There Have Been Over 350 Mass Shootings In 2015 Alone Is Still Absolute Bullshit.

Many people who follow my blog have seen my post titledThe “There Have Been Over 250 Mass Shootings Already in 2015 Alone” Myth” in which I present evidence that thoroughly debunks the anti-gunner claim that there have been more mass shootings than days in 2015.

Well, buckle up buckaroos!  Consider this Part 2 to that post, because I have found some more evidence for that ass.  So pull up a chair and let’s get started.

First, we have this article titled “Number of U.S. Mass Shootings Greatly Exaggerated in Media, Acclaimed Researcher States“. It’s a good read.  Check it out.

Next we have this gem brought to you bywww.TheFederalistPapers.org.  This is where it gets really fun.  Let’s do this.

GunsAreCool/Reddit has apparently become the go-to source for mass shooting statistics, but is their information accurate?

Hardball with Chris Matthews, The Daily Show and WaPohave all cited the “mass shooting tracker” featured on Reddit’s GunsAreCool forum which says America has seen somewhere in the neighborhood of 353 mass shootings in 2015 alone.

Mere seconds of investigation into this “tracker” proves otherwise.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation defines a “mass shooting” as an event in which four or more individuals are killed as a result of a shooting. This excludes the shooter, which GunsAreCool includes in their “tracker”.

Going by that definition, are Reddit’s statistics accurate?

Not by a long shot. Let’s take a look at the first seven “mass shootings” recorded by this “tracker.

None of the first seven shootings qualify as “mass shootings.” Each shooting has a citation leading to a news story about the incident so everyone can confirm it’s not fabricated.

So how many of the 353 shootings listed actually meet the FBI’s definition of a “mass shooting?

22

Out of 353 proclaimed “mass shootings,” only 22 meet the FBI’s criteria of a “mass shooting.”

But let’s not stop there, let’s break down the stories by category. Some of the cases fit into more than one category.

Number Of Stories Where The Shooter’s Death/Injury Is Included In The Death/Injury Numbers:45

Number Of Stories Where The Victims Were Killed By A Family Member/Relative: 23

Number Of Stories Where There Were No Deaths, Just Injuries: 146

Cases That Aren’t Considered Mass Shootings For Reasons Other Than Death Count (Reasons Given Below): 4

  • Case 9: Murders took place in several different locations with a moderate amount of time between each killing.

  • Case 111: Police respond to a domestic violence call where they are attacked by a man. (Man did not use firearms in his attack.) Officers shot and killed him.

  • Case 282: Police confront two men with outstanding warrants, who begin shooting at the officers. Officers shoot back and kill the men. Only two dead are the perpetrators, only two injured are the police.

  • Case 336: Perpetrator only shot two victims, when the counter says 4. The other two deaths were linked to smoke inhalation after he lit the house on fire.

Number of Shootings That Took Place In A Social Setting (i.e., Party, Concert, Funeral): 114

Number of Shootings That Police Believe To Be Drug/Gang Related: 38

Number Of Drive-By Shootings: 32

Number Of Murder-Suicides: 23

There were several cases in which the facts in the story, and the numbers given on the tracker didn’t match up, such as case 337. The tracker says 5 dead, whereas the article says 5 injured.

So when I use the same site you went to, this is what we get when we sort by the FBI’s own classification system:

12 down from 200.

That is a 94% reduction in the number, using the FBI’s own metrics.

And if you look at Hesston, Kansas incident……

The woman accused of transferring guns used in the Excel Industries shooting spree has pleaded not guilty.  

Sarah Hopkins, 28, is charged with knowingly transferring weapons to a convicted felon.  Court documents show she and Cedric Ford had a past relationship.

….the gun was illegally obtained, and the 4th person killed was the shooter himself, so that one would fall off the list.

So that’s 11. Down from 200.

The KC, Kansas incident is debatable, as the “suspected” killer was a previously deported illegal immigrant….

Serrano-Vitorino has had previous run-ins with other agencies.

He was deported to Mexico in 2004. It’s unclear when he returned to the United States, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

By September 15, ICE became aware Serrano-Vitorino had returned to the country illegally after he was fingerprinted at the Overland Park Municipal Court in Kansas.

But ICE mistakenly issued a detainer for him to the wrong sheriff’s office. As a result of the error, Serrano-Vitorino was not taken into custody then.

….so there is no legal way he could have gotten his hands on a gun.

So that’s 10. Down from 200.

Let’s go to the Belfair, Washington shooting, shall we?

The spokesperson said the .380 semi-automatic handgun Campbell used was owned by Terry Carlson, Lana Carlson’s deceased ex-husband.

Spokesperson Chief Ryan Spurling called Campbell a “career criminal,” someone with non-violent crime convictions in Missouri, Pennsylvania and Wyoming.

As a convicted felon, Campbell was not allowed to be in possession of guns.

So that’s 9. Down from 200.

I’m going to stop here.

If I had the time to go through each one on this list, and I mean the ones that have 3 or less deaths, I’m going to estimate that a lot of those are going to be crimes committed with illegally obtained weapons, people that shouldn’t have been in the country in the first place, and/or gang-related violence, which is just another way of saying illegal gun.

If someone else wants to pick it up from here, you’re welcome to it.

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