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voidfraction:

If you upload a raven (or some other corvid with problem-solving ability) and use copies of the resulting postcorvid entity to pilot, eg, trash cleanup drones, what moral responsibility do you have to them?

Uploads count Obviously the same as biologicals (or more if they’re uplifted in the process) so I’d argue that such postcorvids need to be treated pretty well. Piloting the drones should be sufficiently stimulating that they aren’t getting bored, they shouldn’t feel pain except where reasonably justified as a self-protective measure against damage (and if the drone is rendered inoperable the upload process should be frozen immediately), they shouldn’t be having urges they are unable to satisfy, etc.; basically treat the mechbirds the same you’d treat biobirds with equivalent minds.

And fully uplifted neo-avians should get the same rights as humans. No questions about it.

1 month ago · tagged #uploads are persons #i'm willing to fight for this · 26 notes · source: voidfraction · .permalink

  1. collapsedsquid reblogged this from socialjusticemunchkin and added:
    That’s always something I’ve wondered about, making organism-like robots for which “working” is basically what they want...
  2. lizardywizard reblogged this from woodswordsquire
  3. woodswordsquire reblogged this from socialjusticemunchkin and added:
    #birdsrightsactivist Excuse u. Mechbird union demands Sundays off and 3 weeks vacation, NOT be shut off at humans whims....
  4. socialjusticemunchkin reblogged this from soundlogic2236 and added:
    So basically the mechraven would feel like it’s living to the fullest, while picking up trash as a side effect.
  5. slartibartfastibast reblogged this from voidfraction and added:
    All of these moral systems depend on the conscious state of the bird being arbitrarily duplicable. That looks about as...
  6. soundlogic2236 reblogged this from voidfraction and added:
    Oh! I know about that (CUTE VIDEO THOUGH), I was thinking more in terms of do they need calm quiet times, not just play....
  7. voidfraction reblogged this from soundlogic2236 and added:
    I’m not sure what happens to ravens if they’re deprived of opportunities to play, but they definitely play in nature....