Before getting deeper into the open borders debate I’ve found that there are at least five end goals different people have that need to be distinguished:
1. Closed borders, strong states based on ethnic groups.
2. The status quo with slightly higher or slightly lower skilled migration quotas.
3. Open borders while preserving the welfare state.
4. Open borders while destroying the welfare state.
5. Open borders while destroying the entire concept of states.
The “preserve/destroy the welfare state” binary must also be queered as I could see myself pragmatically taking either 3 or 4 depending on what “the welfare state” is interpreted to mean. The idealist side of my anarcho-pragmatism (queer all the binaries!) really really wants 5 because no governance without consent and no gods no masters, but only if we can invent a better solution than states; and I seem to be prone to interpreting cautious approaches towards 3 as instances of 2 instead. But yes, trying to figure out one’s position on this helps understand the debate better.
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lewtuff reblogged this from socialjusticemunchkin and added:neat discussion here, gotta say that the idea of queering a discourse binary seems to be a useful concept!
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shacklesburst said: 6. Open Borders and also destroying the UNIVERSE!
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