Wait a goddamn second political alignment charts are literally the same exact thing as D&D alignment grids. What the shit
- Lawful Good: True State Socialism
- Lawful Neutral: Left-leaning liberals
- Lawful Evil: “moderate” liberals, neocons
- Neutral Good: [Impossible due to the nature of politics?]
- True Neutral: South Park libertarians, Legal Weed Capitalists
- Neutral Evil: people obsessed with “states’ rights”
- Chaotic Good: Anarcho-communists, the Yippies
- Chaotic Neutral: Vermin Supreme
- Chaotic Evil: militia groups and anarcho-capitalists
tag yourself I’m true neutral
I’m seeing that Neutral Good is unoccupied territory and seizing it to be the refuge of all “I don’t really know the specifics but we should have post-scarcity and freedom and niceness and 3d-printers for all and nobody voting on anyone’s body” people
I thought given it’s between between state socialism and Anarcho-communists, “Social Democracy“ was the obvious idea to slot there.
No, socdems are LN in this one; NG is a continuation from “states’ rights” to “weed capitalists” to X so it’s some kind of egalitarian minarchism which is close enough for these purposes.
But that doesn’t include the idea that we are obligated to help each other, which joins state socialism and anarcho-communism.
Curses, maybe OP was right.
“We are obligated to help each other, so the state should get out of the way and stop hindering it by trying to micromanage human interaction, but it should ensure a sufficient basic income because that’s very important and can’t be left to chance”
The axes are perfectly coherent: Lawful = big government, Neutral = small government, Chaotic = no government; Good = equality, Neutral = (as Vermin Supreme puts it) “letting shit fall where it may”, Evil = hierarchy.
Thus the Neutral Evil/Neutral/Good becomes:
small government for purposes of hierarchy (“states’ rights” is often basically a very transparent euphemism for “the federal government shouldn’t be able to stop us from reinstating slavery”)
small government for purposes of letting shit fall where it may (soft libertarianism)
small government for purposes of equality (which some kind of welfare minarchism would be pretty much exactly; (arguably a post-scarcity society might be closer to “letting shit fall where it may” and I personally might be actually closer to Chaotic Neutral in this chart (except quite pragmatic about it and thus approaching True Neutral most of the time or something) but I wanted to impose my desire of not allowing impossibilities on this one and the politics of niceness and helping each other were a good fit with neutral good (as I said I don’t really know the specifics and we just should have a good society with no poverty or voting on people’s bodies and I’m not lawful enough to let the letter of the chart override the spirit of neutral good)))
In comparison: Lawfuls are:
big government for hierarchy (imperialism, authoritarianism)
big government for letting shit fall where it may (social democracy is not exactly known for its anti-statist ideals; the people making “governmentisgood.com” websites about how the mortgage deduction is supposedly not an indirect way of robbing the poor to subsidize the homeowning middle class which is more well-off to begin with than those who don’t own homes, but instead “a good thing your tax moneys pay for” (oh sure, it’s my tax moneys all right, paying for someone else’s McMansion because I’m the kind of a person who doesn’t want to get tied down to property and thus the state shall scorn me financially to punish my degenerate lifestyle (I’m not a fan of landlords but they do create some value by enabling me to not own my own housing so I can move somewhere else really easily in pursuit of opportunities and/or cute people)) and defending things like “the state should regulate the opening hours of grocery stores” and doing all the big government apologia tend to disproportionately be socdems who don’t see all the harms they are causing with reckless applications of the State and PoliceMob; and it notably rejects the more aggressive leveling of Actual Socialism in favor of simply regulating the excesses of statist crony capitalism (or less charitably, sweeping them under the rug by its tendency to be unwilling to address the root causes like dysfunctional markets which, combined with the absence of meaningful alternative ways of acquiring sustenance, together permit the existence of such abominations as “shitty jobs for poor people” in the first place) thus it belongs here; of course it could be that “social democracy” means different things in different places, but I definitely live in one, am desperately trying to get away from there, and can tell that around here “social democracy” means Jantelaw, mind-bogglingly unnecessary regulation (San Francisco is certainly trying though, but it’s a neophyte in comparison) voting on people’s bodies, and “omfg you (mostly) americans aren’t going to believe how much of the value we create is seized by the state” (in Finland 24% VAT on most things, up to ~35% progressive national income tax, ~16-23% municipal income tax depending on location (with a flat deduction for the first few thousand euros a year) ~25% payroll tax for pensions, 20% corporate tax, ~30% capital gains tax, and extra taxes on specific things; and Sweden once taxed a childrens’ book author 102%[sic])))
big government for equality (statist socialism)
And Chaotics:
no government for purposes of hierarchy (basically “we have guns, you don’t, so we tell you what to do; should’ve gotten guns of your own if you didn’t want this to happen”)
no government for purposes of letting shit fall where it may
no government for purposes of equality
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I’m somewhere between lawful neutral and true neutral.@maxiesatanofficial why are “"moderate” liberals" lawful evil?
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