If someone was running a private security company in Ancapistan I wonder if they would be tempted to offer a deluxe package which costs ten times as much and offers immunity to minor crimes, or a platinum package which costs even more and shields you from murder investigations.
Would you want to buy security from a company that would let some members of Argumate’s Hypothetical Security Firm not be prosecuted for murdering you?
Probably not, in which case you would have to buy from me! :)
It’s kind of surreal to watch libertarians argue, and forget that some people don’t have money. Or do you just think that victims of crime don’t matter unless they are rich?
Presumably, people with fewer possessions are less likely to have lots of thieves target them, so they should be able to get lower rates. In terms of “random assaults”, normal police already don’t constantly go around breaking those up?
IDK. I mean, it’s not clear that current police serve poor communities particularly well.
The police don’t exactly help poor people a lot in the status quo… like, Friedman addresses this argument in Machinery of Freedom, and he’s like “in a statist society, poor people pay taxes to get victimized by police, and in an ancap society poor people will pay fees to get protection that actually has an incentive to, you know, protect them.”
Yeah. Black Panthers are what I’d expect marginalized people to have if the state wasn’t intent on smashing every such attempt (guess what the fuck happened to the Black Panthers in reality). If the poor have their own protection agency that negotiates with the protection agency of the rich, even from a drastically lopsided negotiating situation, it’s still strictly better than the status quo where the protection agency of the rich is allowed to kidnap anyone who tries to organize the poor people’s protection agency.
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