"I wanted to … make [Rorschach] as like, ‘this is what Batman would be in the real world’. But I have forgotten that actually to a lot of comic fans, ‘smelling’, ‘not having a girlfriend’, these are actually kind of heroic! So Rorschach became the most popular character in Watchmen. I made him to be a bad example. But I have people come up to me in the street and saying: ‘I AM Rorschach. That is MY story’. And I’d be thinking: ‘Yeah, great. Could you just, like, keep away from me, never come anywhere near me again as long as I live?’"
Alan Moore (via
)
“I wanted to use the typical cliches to signal that this character is disgusting, but people sharing some characteristics saw a reflection of themselves, no matter how twisted (it’s not like trans women never recognized themselves in “evil” characters), and I just want to make it absolutely clear that I consider smelly people without girlfriends disgusting and worthless.”
– Alan Moore
(via socialjusticemunchkin)
Wait, what? I get the sadistic-vigilante aspect being meant to be offputting, but I assumed his lack of ability to have a relationship was meant as an unfortunate side effect rather than an actual disease. When the heck did Alan Moore attribute Rorschach’s popularity to THAT?
That said, does the “Marginalized people see themselves in a villain” phenomenon seriously apply to Rorschach? The whole point of Rorschach is that he’s a reactionary wingnut who enjoys inflicting violence on pretty much every category of people who ever had to settle for a villain for representation.
(via laropasucia)
Relatability. That seems to be what Moore is actually talking about; not heroic but protagonist-y.
I can’t interpret this as anything else than “oh btw neckbeards suck, scorn dem” because he’s not talking about Rorschach’s reactionaryness, but his neckbeardness. Reactionary wingnuttiness is bad, but if reactionary wingnuts are the only protagonist-y neckbeards is media, one shouldn’t be surprised if neckbeards latch onto reactionary wingnuts. I’d be far more sympathetic to the idea if it was like “but I forgot that a lot of fans are closet reactionaries who just want to inflict violence on pretty much every such category of people” (which, unfortunately, also seems to be true for a certain value of “a lot” that is nowhere near the majority but seems significant enough to cause problems) because that is a characteristic of bad people, while neckbeardness is not.
(via laropasucia)
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