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brave and steely-eyed and morally pure and a bit terrifying… /testimonials /evil /leet .ask? .ask_long?


oligopsony:

deusvulture:

I am somewhat amused that my culture-war dichotomies post has taken off due to people treating it like a personality quiz where you categorize yourself along each axis…

I think it was @worldoptimization who said “Never underestimate the memetic fitness of an opportunity to categorize oneself”. I’m starting to wonder if there’s a carcinisation-like effect there, too.

Luckily I’m one of those people who doesn’t fall for such tricks. Us low-Barnum types should probably stick together to avoid memetic contagion.

It’s an opportunity to do very condensed self-signaling with low effort and an already existing context for interpreting them. Also the dichotomy idea was interpreted as sufficiently sarcastic/non-serious that turning it into shitposting was the Officially Mandatory™ response. Your memetic game was good, even if it was accidental.

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3 months ago · 35 notes · source: deusvulture · .permalink


The “20th Century” update to Outside did give people a lot of cool new gear, but the changes to the ideology system are totally fucked up. I know the USSR drama was really popular and even got some attention in the non-gamer media but the new simplified ideology mechanism (to make it more n00b-friendly, no doubt) sux0rz. Also, the abrupt plot derail from the promised impending boss fight against the State-Sanctioned Robber Barons into the “everyone splits to two sides, now PvP” filler was complete bullshit and a blatant money grab because the creative team was sitting on their asses unable to figure out meaningful content (”Post-Scarcity” has been vaporware for how long now?). Also, the promised exciting update to organizations was a real let-down because they just took down all the player-created content and replaced it with NPC shit the players can’t meaningfully influence or interact with.

Devs, fire those slackers and roll back to the ideology system of “19th Century” for this update so I can again PvE with libertarians, communists and feminists without needing to be really careful not to accidentally PvP my guildmates because the game engine arbitarily assigns us to different sides.

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ilzolende:

thetransintransgenic:

mitoticcephalopod:

ilzolende:

sigmaleph:

deusvulture:

One of the few fun things about culture war, in my opinion, is how every available territory gets crammed into this absurd dualistic framework so that people can fight about it, resulting in a fascinating assortment of mystic correspondences.

From a sufficiently advanced perspective, all of the following distinctions collapse into a single bit:

Women vs. Men
Hunanities vs. Sciences
Democrats vs. Republicans
Easy video games vs. Difficult video games
Trans people vs. Cis people
Communists vs. Fascists
Black people vs. White people
Literary fiction vs. Genre fiction
Young people vs. Old people
Disabled people vs. Abled people
Tumblr vs. Reddit
Gay people vs. Straight people
American children’s cartoons vs. Anime
Slavenmoral vs. Herrenmoral
Censorship vs. Free speech
Spirituality vs. Hard atheism
Choice-based interactive fiction vs. Parser-based interactive fiction
Secularism vs. Christianity
Poor people vs. Rich people
Relativism vs. Positivism

Any seeming contradictions in these coalitions/basic ontological categories is purely your imagination.

I scored 9 on one side, 9 on the other and 2 I have no idea.

  • L Women vs. Men
  • R Hunanities vs. Sciences
  • C Democrats vs. Republicans
  • L Easy video games vs. Difficult video games
  • R Trans people vs. Cis people
  • C Communists vs. Fascists
  • R Black people vs. White people
  • R Literary fiction vs. Genre fiction
  • L Young people vs. Old people
  • L Disabled people vs. Abled people
  • L Tumblr vs. Reddit
  • L Gay people vs. Straight people
  • C American children’s cartoons vs. Anime
  • C Slavenmoral vs. Herrenmoral
  • L Censorship vs. Free speech
  • C Spirituality vs. Hard atheism
  • C Choice-based interactive fiction vs. Parser-based interactive fiction
  • L Secularism vs. Christianity
  • R Poor people vs. Rich people
  • R Relativism vs. Positivism

8 left, 6 right, 6 center/confusion.

L Women vs. Men
R Hunanities vs. Sciences
L Democrats vs. Republicans
C Easy video games vs. Difficult video games
L Trans people vs. Cis people
L Communists vs. Fascists
R Black people vs. White people
C Literary fiction vs. Genre fiction
L Young people vs. Old people
L Disabled people vs. Abled people
L Tumblr vs. Reddit
L Gay people vs. Straight people
C American children’s cartoons vs. Anime
C Slavenmoral vs. Herrenmoral
R Censorship vs. Free speech
R Spirituality vs. Hard atheism
C Choice-based interactive fiction vs. Parser-based interactive fiction
L Secularism vs. Christianity
C Poor people vs. Rich people
R Relativism vs. Positivism 

9 Lefts, 5 Rights, 6 Center/confusion

I’m gonna guess based on:

American children’s cartoons vs. Anime
(?? Slavenmoral vs. Herrenmoral ??)
Spirituality vs. Hard atheism
Choice-based interactive fiction vs. Parser-based interactive fiction

that this is sarcastic. I’ve yet to see any sustained-for-any-reasonable-time complete cramming of “American children’s cartoons vs. Anime” (there was like that one month, maybe…) into anywhere near the same binary as, e.g., “Woman vs. Men”, and I’ve flat-out never seen either of the other two even argued as opposites (especially not moral opposites? Unless you mean something REALLY different for “spirituality”…).

(”Slavenmoral vs. Herrenmoral” I’ve just never heard of, but from a quick web search which only turned up “Herrenmoral” as “master+morality”, introduced by some philosopher, it looks like this is a classic, deliberately-basically-one-bit dichotomy and also not one discussed very much in the same fights as the others. But I really, really, don’t know, so I’m just leaving it in (??)s and not using it to back my thinking.)

So yeah. I could be totally wrong, but I’m gonna go with sarcastic, maybe trolling, for this.

Oh, it’s definitely not 100% sincere, we’re just taking the survey anyway.

Slavenmoral vs Herrenmoral didn’t get search results because the first term wants to be spelled Sklavenmoral. It’s Nietzsche stuff, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_morality. AFAIK, both of them are interesting summaries of phenomena but not actually systems you should use for decision-making. Or even identify with, probably. IIRC, Nietzche sounded like he favored the latter, but that might just be because he published a book about how the former sucked that was supposed to be part of a series but then he died? IDK, though.

L Women vs. Men
R Hunanities vs. Sciences
L Democrats vs. Republicans
L Easy video games vs. Difficult video games
L Trans people vs. Cis people
L Communists vs. Fascists
R Black people vs. White people
R Literary fiction vs. Genre fiction
L Young people vs. Old people
L Disabled people vs. Abled people
L Tumblr vs. Reddit
L Gay people vs. Straight people
R American children’s cartoons vs. Anime
R Slavenmoral vs. Herrenmoral
R Censorship vs. Free speech
R Spirituality vs. Hard atheism
L Choice-based interactive fiction vs. Parser-based interactive fiction
L Secularism vs. Christianity
R Poor people vs. Rich people
R Relativism vs. Positivism

11 Left, 9 Right, opting out is for the weak. I shall take this ridiculous one-bit framework and bend it to my own will by actualizing myself even within its constraints and defying the very foundations of it.

There are the answers, survey-maker. You may ask them to do whatever you wish. I remain free.

(via ilzolende)

3 months ago · tagged #shitposting · 100 notes · source: deusvulture · .permalink


How I found rationalist tumblr/a social life, the long version

rusalkii:

severnayazemlya:

ilzolende:

rusalkii:

[disclaimer- I’m in a really weird easily excitable mood right now, this is written really weirdly. Will probably be very embarrassed about this later.]

Kira finds link to Slate Star Codex that some person put in a list of their favorite blogs.

It might’ve been in the comment section of Wait But Why, might have been on reddit.

Kira goes, “hmm, sounds cool”.

Kira reads a few of Scott Alexander’s posts.

Kira goes “!!!!”.

Kira binges a good half of his archives.

Kira reads the comments.

Kira goes “Oh my god a comment section that doesn’t make me want to wipe humanity from the face of the earth”.

“who are these people and where have they been hiding for my whole life?”

Kira obsessively stalks SSC’s comment section for maybe a month.

Kira finds LW, the Sequences, and HPMOR.

Kira is useless for the next two weeks, can be seen reading her Kindle, ranting at her Kindle, and threatening to throw her Kindle at a wall. 

Kira develops obsession/special interest in anything related to rationalists.

Kira finds Ozy’s blog, Scott’s twitter, figures out he has a tumblr, finds his tumblr, finds Ozy’s tumblr.

Goes ”!!!!! I can talk to these people!!!“.

make a tumblr.

follows rationalist blogs.

lurks

lurks more

lurks some more

“this Alison @sinesalvatorem person sounds really cool…”

“wait a minute I can talk to her”

“this is a thing I can do”

“wait no that’s scary”

“form letters. She has form letters. I can do form letters.”

Kira sends form letter.

Kira freaks out because that’s embarrassing.

Alison responds.

“!!!!!!” thinks Kira.

a few days later:“oh my god she likes me?”

“is this flirting? I think this is flirting”

“how do I flirt back oh my god this stressful”

“wait. did that work. are we actually dating? For real? In real life? Wait, so this means I’m gay. And poly. OK, that’s a thing I can do.”

“!!!!!!!!!”

Kira proceeds to be extremely surprised by this for the next month or so.

Kira then realizes that she can talk to other people.

Kira also realizes that it’s probably a good idea to actually post original content, because people who do that are much more interesting and then people are more likely to talk to me.

@inquisitivefeminist sends me a message! 

I effortpost at @socialjusticemunchkin and we talk!

I send the most awkward hello of all time to @sdhs-rationalist. We talk. And then we talk more. And then we meet IRL. And then I figure out that hugs are possibly the best thing yet invented.

@ghostofasecretary sends me a message! 

@ilzolende talks to me! @pistachi0n sends me a message! @segfaultvicta talked to me! I talk to @futureresearcheralex! @somnilogical sends me a random heart and puns about replies in my direction! Other people who I might have forgotten talk to me!

Suddenly I have a social life, which I’m still confused by. 

#as you can see Ii am unreasonably excited by people talking to me #and also just unreasonably excited right now #this is why you don’t drink coffee kira #people come talk to me I’m vaguely less weird than I sound here #or more weird #i’m not entirely sure #notes for my future biography

I wouldn’t call it unreasonable to be excited by people talking to you. I used to think I was just an introvert and I spent an entire year having basically 0 friends/friend-like acquaintances, and all the social contact I get from the LW Diaspora has been really amazing for me too.

one of the posts i have decidedly not been meaning to write for ages because writing at all is probably unvirtuous is b. about that

it’s actually about “introversion doesn’t really real and if you think you’re an introvert it’s probably just that for whatever reason you find the people around you too cognitively taxing to be worth the effort of interacting with them, and the reason is probably either anxiety or thedish distance, except anxiety is fed by thedish distance.”

So I have no idea what thedish distance is, but as anecdata supporting the rest of your point: Since I’m currently on a terrible caffeine high (because I never learn, apparently), all my social filters and inhibitions are completely down, and I have been absurdly social. Talking to multiple people at once, completely invested in all the conversations, really excited about every single one, not frantically re-reading everything I write worried that it’ll make me look bad, etc. That’s the only reason I was even able to make the original post at all, because I wasn’t worrying about how people would see it. So yeah, conversation right now are unusually easy for me, and if it was like this all the time I would be the most extroverted person I know, assuming an abundance of interesting people. And my entire post up there was me being really really excited about finding so many interesting people, so I doubt that would be a problem.

“Anxiety has fallen asleep at the wheel, send all the messages RIGHT NOW”

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sinesalvatorem:

My brain seems to split al human beings into “friends” and “not-friends”; with friends being the people I am super confident like me, and not-fiends being literally anyone else. They could definitely like me - it’s just that system 1 wouldn’t be sure they do.

Friends are easy to be around. Friends aren’t mentally taxing to interact with. I don’t need to script to interact with friends. I don’t need to convince myself I have an “excuse” in order to go anywhere near them.

This is not true of anyone else. Be they strangers or classmates; if I’m not completely sure they like me, I can’t initiate any sort of contact without convincing myself that I have a good reason to.

Which is to say that my useless traitor of a brain won’t let me leave my room when my flatmates are about. Ugh.

3 months ago · tagged #it me #where did all these brainclones suddenly appear from #user's guide to interacting with a promethea #nothing to add but tags · 24 notes · source: sinesalvatorem · .permalink


shlevy:

Anyone know of an epistemological theory besides Objectivism’s that treats context, both in the sense of “the sum of things you already know from which further knowledge can arise/be made intelligible” and in the sense of “the particular goals and scope of action of the knower”, as fundamentally/inextricably an aspect of all knowledge?

Intersectional feminism? Knowledge, aka. reality-based conceptualizations of things, is not independent of the systems within which the conceptualization is done, and the systems themselves lend themselves towards certain kinds of action, and there are knowledges and actions that are effectively impossible within carelessly constructed conceptualizations, and this is kind of a low-effort post so I haven’t bothered to think things through much more thoroughly than “this sounds really familiar” (possibly a little bit relevant link)

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sinesalvatorem:
“ breakfastwithlucien:
“ Tag yourself I’m running about
”
I’m a knocker-up of workpeople
”
Count as female or sampler of drugs, decisions, decisions…

sinesalvatorem:

breakfastwithlucien:

Tag yourself I’m running about

I’m a knocker-up of workpeople

Count as female or sampler of drugs, decisions, decisions…

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thetransintransgenic:
“ westernsocietyfucked100years:
“ vaultek:
“ Welcome to hell!!! Welcome to hell!!!
”
OD on redpill
”
Wow, “anti-egalitarian”? Isn’t “egalitarian”, like, “I’m saying ‘gender equality is good’ but I’m against basically all things...

thetransintransgenic:

westernsocietyfucked100years:

vaultek:

Welcome to hell!!! Welcome to hell!!!

OD on redpill

Wow, “anti-egalitarian”? Isn’t “egalitarian”, like, “I’m saying ‘gender equality is good’ but I’m against basically all things called ‘feminism’ nowadays”? And they’re anti-that?

Also, “right wing environmentalist”. Like, that doesn’t seem contradictory, but I don’t think I;ve ever heard of it before… It tastes really weird…

I usually refrain from saying things like “literally Hitler” but this person admittedly does come impressively close to being what a 20-year-old Hitler in 2016 might plausibly be, environmentalism and all.

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argumate:

kropotkitten:

ontologicalummah:

Here’s the thing…

Muslims are already detained without cause(CMU’s, black sites,etc)….

Black people make up a significant amount of those in the prison system and our used as a source of cheap labor

Undocumented immigrants ranging from toddlers to the elderly are put into transient detention centers every day.

So for people to talk about Tump’s ideology leading to “camps” is not only insulting it also ignores the grim reality that in 2016 with Obama as president millions of people are incarcerated mostly for political reasons and are forced to work for little to no pay.

You don’t even have to go back to the 1930’s-40’s

Also Indigenous people who live on reservations go to federal court/prison cause the state still treats them like colonial subjects

The election of Trump will be a sudden reminder to the Democratic party that Guantanamo should be closed, drone strikes are a war crime, and there should be strict checks and balances on presidential power, lasting up until the next time they win an election.

(via wirehead-wannabe)

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wirehead-wannabe:

dagny-hashtaggart:

raginrayguns:

I think in most fiction that I read, the hero is confronted with a crisis, and they end up saving everybody. Like in Die Hard John McClane starts as a hostage along with everybody else. In Star Wars, Luke may have joined the Rebellion eventually anyway but in the moment he’s responding to a call to transport the Death Star plans.

Less often do the heros sort of, start the fight. Attack on Titan is maybe one of these cases. Eren and Armin are not responding to a crisis but to the ongoing circumstance of the Titans imprisoning humanity. (Mikasa doesn’t seem to think much about this stuff.) Although even in this case the titans sort of started it by killing Eren’s parents.

In Alicornfic though this is the norm. In Luminosity, Bella basically starts planning a war against the Volturi the moment she hears about them. Whereas in the source material, Twilight, the action side of the plot was more like, “she’s playing baseball with her hot sparkly superpowers boyfriend, fairly content with the state of the world, when a wild serial killer appears.” Luminosity!Bella definitely starts the fight. Like Eren, she’s not responding to a crisis, but to the way things have been for hundreds of years, which she decides to change.

Rhysel too, shows up like “nice Elcenia you got here BUT OH MY GOD THE SHRENS I HAVE TO HELP THE SHRENS”, which you know has been a work in progress for a few hundred years, not some sudden crisis instigated by a villain like you usually see. Talyn has the more traditional story when he fights off the demon. But he responds to the ongoing problems of Ryganaav, and then for most of the rest of his story he’s dealing with problems that he created.

So, many Alicorn heros become heros by deciding to fight against an ongoing circumstance that people have gotten used to, just like Eren and Armin. Whereas I think in most fantasy fiction the heros become heros by responding to an emerging crisis that threatens to upset the status quo. (though in Star Wars, while Luke is responding to an emerging crisis, he is still fighting to change the status quo.)

The most alicornish thing I’ve read outside of Alicorn is I think the subplot in The Sorcerer Royal, where the main character visits a school for magical women, where they are mostly taught how to suppress their magic because magic isnt proper for a woman, and he’s immediately like, “well clearly I have to reform women’s magical education,” and immediately sets to work. The action of the story is mainly not about this, it’s about all the attempts to kill him and the crisis of magic beginning to fade from England. But taking up a cause like this against an ongoing usual circumstance is not something I usually see in fantasy fiction outside of alicornfic.

Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality looked like it was going to be like this. Harry showed up to the wizarding world and wass like, “here’s my list of things wrong with this situation.” But then he didn’t really pursue them, and the story stuck to the source material of dealing with Voldemort invading the school for the Sorcerers Stone.

Haven’t read much glowfic yet, but some useful reading on this phenomenon more generally. Basically, most audience members like the status quo, so most heroes protect the status quo.

OH MY GOD THIS HAS BEEN BOTHERING ME SO MUCH THOUGH

Like you I haven’t read much Alicornfic yet, but reading stories that always end with the hero right where they started after a massive struggle is sort of mentally exhausting after a while.

Yes! I’m a villain because most people operate on the assumption that heroes defend the status quo which villains try to change. Fuck that.

Also, looks like I need to read Alicornfic when/if I have time for such things.

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